De todos modos tienes razón, la gente es muy llorica. En el foro de BF se ha montado una buena con esto (aunque ahí siempre se montan polémicas enormes por cosas mucho más tontas). Por si a alguien le interesa, copio un par de mensajes de gente de Battlefront en este monstruo de hilo.Pero nos seais lloricas! Entiendo lo de quejarse,es gratis,pero coño,cuantos vais regularmente a tiendas Battlefront o torneos Battlefront a jugar?
Tiene razón pero si, como él dice, la gente que juega fuera de torneos es el 90% de su negocio, entonces no está claro qué ganan con esta nueva restricción, que es lo que hemos dicho un par de personas en este foro.If I was a child and wanted to hold my breath I would not be letting people run around on our forum spouting such utter nonsense but deleting their posts and banning their accounts but that would be childish and serve no real purpose as I prefer to read what is said and then comment when I feel the need.
If Flames Of War is not creating our own IP I dont know what is and I know that Pete, Phil, Wayne, Evan and the guys would disagree as they have spent the last ten years of their lives dedicated to creating a hobby that is the heart of our business and completely unique. FOW is what drives the WWII 15mm gaming community and has done for many years and despite other manufacturers of models it was never any more than just another historical scale before FOW came along. If supporting your hobby involves you changing sides every time a business decision upsets you I would ask anybody who enjoyed their free copy of 3rd edition to speak up and say that we behaved like GW. Stand up and tell me that we are like any other company and I will give you five exmaples where we have proven time and again we are not. We are simply making a choice for our own events and even if you disagree you should respect us for the right to do so as just like giving away the rules free to over 50,000 people this year the same people made that choice so we cant be as bad as some of you would make out.
The problem is that the vocal few with more opinion than understanding would make it sound like this effects the entire hobby. You are wrong. Competitive gaming is a part of our hobby and we support it becasue we want to help that part grow but 90+% of all gamers are casual players who play in stores and at friends houses and never particpate in a tournament. These are the core of our business and despite some posters in this thread claiming to "know" this is a small issue effecting a gorup of players who however vocal are not the only gamers in the hobby.
Despite it being unwise to comment on this thread it is hard to read personal attacks on yourself and your team without feeling a little hurt and whilst I should not defend our choice more as it will just give some of you more fuel to bleat I stand by what I say. Try and look at the big picture, remember who we are, what we have done and how FOW got here and then just decide if that is your hobby or not as you shoud want to support your hobby and if this or any other decison we make has you changing your mind then we wish you all the best and thank you for your business but we will still be here doing our best and behaving the way we always have.
Otro mensaje, de JM
Aquí dicen que seguirán apoyando (en el sentido de dar premios, etc.) torneos que permitan otras marcas.I'm going to refute some statements here but I'm sure that i will be told how wrong I am and how this is the end etc etc.
1. This is NOT a GW move! What would be a GW moved would be to cancel all GW run tournaments and the write 2 sets of rules that are very tournament/competitive unfriendly, close the official forum and bury my head in the sand. oh wait that's exactly what they did do! or you could try the other competitive system Privateer , good luck with using other models there at any and all events!
2. It's at our tournaments. if a TO wants his own regulations then choose them we will still offer support and prizes if asked. ( though to all you TO'S I'm going to run a quick scenario by you. At your tournament can i pay my mate Dave 60% and you 0% of the entry fee to come play at your event? i bet the answer is no and for exactly the same reason as we would like you to use our stuff you have bills to pay and what does Dave do for you with running this event)
3. This point I'm sure will be disbelieved by the vehement, we get quite a lot of people saying they don't enjoy playing against non battlefront miniatures and would love a way to mark opponents down for having them but feel they would be ridiculed, marked down themselves, called unsporting, labelled FANBOY so they keep quite just put up with it. However the players who are using other minis are making someone else's hobby less enjoyable, there are 2 sides always.
4. models we don't produce. i don't know yet. as for JU 88'S is there a list where you actually pay the points for these?
5. My last bit would be to say no one has yet given the reasons why we should allow other miniatures. some have given vague its helps get people into the hobby but nothing real ( i hate the idea is not going to cut it here) I suppose i would like conclude here by asking you to take a deep breath and ask yourself "if you owned a game company where your sole income came from, and people started doing to you what some of you are doing what would you do?"
sadly i expect i wont be surprised by the response's to my post
JM
